Cant comment on the winni yet.
It was my 1st run with tren so i havent got anything to compare it to, but it seemed strong. Within about 6days i was feeling stronger and sweating my tits off at night. About 2 weeks in it started to kick my arse a bit, sweating night and day, tren somnia, and mental aggrestion in the gym. Those are some of the bad sides, now for the good, can pretty much eat what i want and still not put fat on and the sex. It made me want sex loads, its fair to say tren turned me in to a sex pest ans the wife loved it (dirty bitch)
Only used 1 vile so still got another to go : )
So next time ill throw the winni in aswell